Horsefield Face Problem

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Horsefield Face Problem

Postby ian180 » Fri Nov 17, 2017 10:54 am

Hi Can anybody give me an idea what has happened to my daughters Hoesefield? I have been to the local vet who had no idea and a specialist vet is a long way away. The plate on the side of his face seems to be coming away? He is eating normally and doesn’t seem bothered at all?
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Re: Horsefield Face Problem

Postby Sandy » Fri Nov 17, 2017 2:02 pm

ian180 wrote:Hi Can anybody give me an idea what has happened to my daughters Hoesefield? I have been to the local vet who had no idea and a specialist vet is a long way away. The plate on the side of his face seems to be coming away? He is eating normally and doesn’t seem bothered at all?



Firstly your daughters tortoise has grown to an odd shape, and grown to fast. Which might be something to do with the plate coming away.
It also could be there was/is an infection under it.
I would leave it alone to come away in its own time, and bathe with a suitable tortoise disinfectant such as diluted betadine, or F10 to stop any bacteria setting in.
Sometimes damage happens to areas and the plates do come loose. I am no expert but do have a lot of experience.
I would find your self a more suitable vet with experience with tortoises.
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Re: Horsefield Face Problem

Postby gettingwarmer » Mon Nov 27, 2017 1:32 am

Hi Ian,

Sandy, who's already answered your post, is a much more experienced tortoise keeper than I, but that crack in the beak does look look a little familiar to me. So here's the story:

My horsfield had a crack in her beak at about that same spot. The vet was able to trim her beak little by little and recommended feeding more dried plants--more natural for the tortoise and wears the beak down better than fresh weeds. Now the crack has been trimmed/grown/worn away and her beak is healthy. It still needs a trim about once a year.

The front of the beak is of thicker keratin than the sides and wears down more slowly. Then, the extra pressure on the longer front portion of the beak can cause the beak to crack, and the crack to grow. Every effort should be made to prevent the crack growing further up into the jaw and toward the eye.

My tortoise does shed from her beak occasionally, but the material is thinner and lighter, more like thick skin, than what your photo shows.

A specialist vet can safely trim your tortoise's beak and evaluate any other issues that may be present.

Best wishes for your daughter's tortoise's health.

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Re: Horsefield Face Problem

Postby Sandy » Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:09 am

gettingwarmer wrote:Hi Ian,

Sandy, who's already answered your post, is a much more experienced tortoise keeper than I, but that crack in the beak does look look a little familiar to me. So here's the story:

My horsfield had a crack in her beak at about that same spot. The vet was able to trim her beak little by little and recommended feeding more dried plants--more natural for the tortoise and wears the beak down better than fresh weeds. Now the crack has been trimmed/grown/worn away and her beak is healthy. It still needs a trim about once a year.

The front of the beak is of thicker keratin than the sides and wears down more slowly. Then, the extra pressure on the longer front portion of the beak can cause the beak to crack, and the crack to grow. Every effort should be made to prevent the crack growing further up into the jaw and toward the eye.

My tortoise does shed from her beak occasionally, but the material is thinner and lighter, more like thick skin, than what your photo shows.

A specialist vet can safely trim your tortoise's beak and evaluate any other issues that may be present.



Best wishes for your daughter's tortoise's health.

Stephanie



Stephanie is correct, I had an ibera who bit into something to hard and took a chunk out of the beak. I knew it was just like our nails Keratin and I chose just to leave it to nature. Eventually the beak wore down to normal:0)
You can take your tort to the vets to get them to show you how to trim beaks, as it does happen:0)
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Re: Horsefield Face Problem

Postby Stuart » Tue Nov 28, 2017 12:09 am

I can only second Sandy and Stephanie's comments.
I would add that some people (self included, in the case of my hatchlings) put their tortoise's food on e.g. a piece of slate, so that the there's the likelihood of some abrasive action when the beak scrapes against the stone. The effect will be slow, but cumulative. It mimics the natural terrain, when our favoured substrates might not.
Providing cuttlefish might also help with keeping the beak in trim (as well as providing an extra source of calcium), although not all tortoises go for it.
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