Please help with subspecies & sex

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Please help with subspecies & sex

Postby O`Donnell » Fri Sep 08, 2017 1:23 am

Good night! My colleagues doubt the subspecies and sex of the tortoise, unfortunately these are all the photos I have:

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As for me -- aged male Tunisian, near 40 years or more, but I would like to make sure. Great thanks in any case!
With besr regards,
Alex
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Re: Please help with subspecies & sex

Postby ejs » Sat Sep 09, 2017 2:34 pm

I am not an expert, but looks like it may be a female hermanns?
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Re: Please help with subspecies & sex

Postby Sandy » Sat Sep 09, 2017 4:46 pm

O`Donnell wrote:Good night! My colleagues doubt the subspecies and sex of the tortoise, unfortunately these are all the photos I have:

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As for me -- aged male Tunisian, near 40 years or more, but I would like to make sure. Great thanks in any case!
With besr regards,
Alex



I would say male.
Certainly not a typical hermans, more like tunisian or libyan. But I am not so sure.
Andy would be a better person to ID the tort.
Not sure how old the damage to the plastaron is but I would bathe in diluted iodine to stop any bacteria setting in.
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Re: Please help with subspecies & sex

Postby O`Donnell » Sat Sep 09, 2017 7:48 pm

ejs wrote:I am not an expert, but looks like it may be a female hermanns?

Thanks for the attention, but I`m sure that it`s "true Greek", not ibera -- nominative, libyan or tunisian. To say the truth, I also have no doubt that it is an aged male, these are my local colleagues who provoked a discussion )))
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Re: Please help with subspecies & sex

Postby Sandy » Sun Sep 10, 2017 8:55 am

O`Donnell wrote:
ejs wrote:I am not an expert, but looks like it may be a female hermanns?

Thanks for the attention, but I`m sure that it`s "true Greek", not ibera -- nominative, libyan or tunisian. To say the truth, I also have no doubt that it is an aged male, these are my local colleagues who provoked a discussion )))



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Re: Please help with subspecies & sex

Postby Tortoise Trust » Mon Sep 11, 2017 9:27 am

I would say very likely a graeca complex from Lebanon/Syria region. It has many characteristics that tick the relevant boxes....
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