ID please....

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ID please....

Postby sprakey34 » Thu Dec 18, 2014 10:15 pm

I am hibernating this little chap for his owner and would like to I.D> him before going ahead. His owner has had him for 15 years and were given all the wrong husbandry info ( food, housing etc )hence how this guy now looks ( husbandry has now changed and is 100% better. Can anyone identify what this little tort is please. Many thanks.
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Re: ID please....

Postby sprakey34 » Fri Dec 19, 2014 4:06 pm

Hi,can anyone help? really don't want to be hibernating him if he is a non hibernator. He is at the end of wind down(done by his owner not me) and although I had been told he was small and deformed I didn't see him till yesterday.
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Re: ID please....

Postby Sandy » Fri Dec 19, 2014 6:20 pm

sprakey34 wrote:Hi,can anyone help? really don't want to be hibernating him if he is a non hibernator. He is at the end of wind down(done by his owner not me) and although I had been told he was small and deformed I didn't see him till yesterday.
Meriel.


If you have only just got this tortoise, then its better you keep him up. As you need to get to know the tortoise and he you and a new set up. He has really bad deformities, so until you really know how he is, better to keep him up if you can.
If he has been hibernated before, then you might not have a choice, as natural instincts set in.
When a tortoise moves to a new environment it can cause stress, and set off unseen illness.
If you are confident and experienced then go ahead and hibernate him.
Its really hard to guess the species, as he is so deformed.
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Re: ID please....

Postby sprakey34 » Fri Dec 19, 2014 9:52 pm

Thanks Sandy, as I've said he isn't mine I offered to hibernate him for someone else. He was said to be spur thigh when he was bought but I know there are several sub species- do you know if they all hibernate?.I need to make a decision by tomorrow as to whether I will hibernate him under a very close eye or to bring him back up and start feeding again. I need to let the owner know.
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Re: ID please....

Postby Sandy » Fri Dec 19, 2014 10:43 pm

sprakey34 wrote:Thanks Sandy, as I've said he isn't mine I offered to hibernate him for someone else. He was said to be spur thigh when he was bought but I know there are several sub species- do you know if they all hibernate?.I need to make a decision by tomorrow as to whether I will hibernate him under a very close eye or to bring him back up and start feeding again. I need to let the owner know.
Meriel


Tunisians are not normally hibernated, but I know of one lady that had done so for 20yrs.
Ibera and graecas do.
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Re: ID please....

Postby sprakey34 » Fri Dec 19, 2014 11:08 pm

OK thanks. I will make the decision tomorrow.
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Postby Tortoise Trust » Sat Dec 20, 2014 5:35 am

As Sandy says, the degree of deformity makes an ID very hard, but I think this is a Tunisian. The degree of deformity is also such that I would not hibernate this animal. It needs continuing special care for several years to come.
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Postby sprakey34 » Sat Dec 20, 2014 8:57 am

Thank you Andy, will resume normal food and light today and let his owner know.
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Re: ID please....

Postby sprakey34 » Sat Dec 20, 2014 11:46 pm

Hi, this little tort has been bathed, has been basking, has eaten and gone back to his owner. He seemed very lively. It was suggested on another forum that I also visited with this I.D.problem that the cooler temps could cause RNS. I have advised his owner to increase his temperatures by about 5 degrees for a week and watch out for nose bubbles. Hope this advice was right- it's what I do with my Star if she has been in a draught.
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Postby sprakey34 » Sat Jul 09, 2016 6:43 pm

Have just heard from the owner that this little chap has died. I believe he was about 18 yrs old. It seems he began "shutting down" on the Monday, vet said all ok but dead on the Thursday. Don't t know if vet was tort specialist. Would he have been ill for sometime, would it be likely caused by the deformity? He had been doing really well the last 2 years since moving to outside enclosure / an open table (weather depending) from a viv for many years. Sadly can't do much now but am curious.
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